Back On org-mode For Work

Posted by Ryan Himmelwright on Wed, Aug 7, 2019
Tags linux, notes, organization, applications
Eno State Park, Durham NC

Last month, I wrote about my switch to Joplin for both my personal and work notes. While I enjoyed many features in Joplin, I also had a few concerns about using the system long-term for all my notes. As of last week, I am still using Joplin for all of my personal notes, but have switched back to org-mode for my notes at work. Why?

Use Cases

To better understand why Joplin works well for me at home but can’t effectively replace org-mode at work, lets first list some different features between Joplin and emacs org-mode.

Joplin Features

“Notes”-Style Focused

Joplin GUI
Joplin uses a traditional "note" layout, with blank text boxes organized into notebooks.

Joplin organizes notes in a traditional “notes” style. Each note starts as a big, blank text-box that the user fills in. These notes are further organized into “notebooks”, which are simply a list of one or more notes. The notes are formatted with markdown, but the application doesn’t seem to support features like collapsible sections.

Simple Markdown Format – Sharable

The markdown editor in Joplin may not support collapsing sections, but it does a great job at supporting other features, like simple code highlighting and web links. Additionally, being formated in markdown, the note contents can be easily exported, transferred, or even shared with other applications and/or people. This is handy when grabbing snippets from the web, which may already be in a markdown friendly format.

Shared across Computer and Mobile Devices

Joplin Android GUI
The Notebook and Notes views on the Android client.

Lastly, the Joplin application is available on all platforms (including mobile), and manages the system to sync the notes across all devices. This makes it a breeze to write a note at a computer, and then have it immediately available on a phone afterwards.

Org-mode use cases

Logging-Style Notes

By comparison, Emacs’ org-mode can be very task oriented, allowing for a more ’log-style’ note-taking system. It encourages outline organization of notes, organized under “tasks” which can be collapsed in a hierarchy. The tasks can be marked “TODO” or “DONE” using the built in TODO system, or tagged for organization. While org-mode can be used when writing “normal” notes, it really shines when working as a task/note system.

Quick Notes, Key-bindings

Demonstration of logging a quick note.
Notes and code blocks can be easily added using key-binding shortcuts.

Another feature in org mode is the note drawer. By pressing a key combination (as one tends to do in Emacs), a new buffer will open up to take a note in. The contents of the note may be text, or even a code snippet (in the emacs mode of that language). When done, I can simply press C-c C-c and the buffer will close, inserting the note with a time-stamped entry as part of the logbook for the task I opened the note in.

This quick logging feature, along with the power of all the key-binding customization, makes note logging fast, efficient, and enjoyable.

TODO/SCRUM Board tasks

Joplin Android GUI
I wrote a package that lets me view org tasks in a scrum board.

As mentioned, org-mode has a powerful todo system. Users can configure how task items should be grouped beyond just a basic TODO/DONE. Using this flexability (and some lisp knowledge), I wrote an scrum board generator for org-mode. This package takes all of my TODO items, and organizes them into scrum task board. This feature helps organize my daily and weekly task lists.

Exporting/Archiving Weekly Logs

The big “feature” org mode has that I find lacking in Joplin, is the ability to better organize long-term sets of notes. With a logging style of note-taking, notes are often organized by a specific range in time (day, week, month). These systems are naturally structured hierarchically and Joplin’s notebook/note organization only allows for systems to be 2 levels deep. However, org files are stored as text files on a traditional file system.

Lastly, org files can be linked (and exported as html files), so any note can still be quickly navigated to, even if the archive spans hundreds of note files over several years.

Home vs Work Notes

Now with some of each note system’s features broken down, how do they fit with my preferences across different note taking use-cases? (mostly personal vs. work)


Joplin Android GUI

My personal notes tend to be organized as more traditional notes. I make large groups, such as ‘Home’, ‘Tech’, ‘Travel’, and stash notes into each. In a note, I tend to organize information on a topic and store it for later. For example, I may have a notebook for online classes, and then a note for each class.

For another example, I have a notebook called ‘Travel’ which contains a note for each trip I plan. In the note, I store information that I will need, such as flight numbers, or hotel addresses. Below important information, I jot down ideas while planning and researching before leaving. This may include places to to eat, or activities I want to do (with links to the websites).

Joplin’s mobile platform support is particularly useful here, as I am able to write up notes on my desktop, and then read them from my phone on the go.


By contrast, my work notes are a mix of task-list and logbook for each week. I plan each week by moving TODO tasks from one day to the next, and changing the status as I work on each one. As I work, I log notes under each task about my progress, as well as any issues/solutions I experience on the way. While the notes are mostly rambling, logging thoughts as I work helps me to quickly identify issues, and solve problems faster.

My notes exported as linked html pages
The index page of my exported weekly work notes.

Most importantly, due to organizing notes by week rather than topic, it is best if I can archive the notes in more of a tree layout. Org notes are plain text files, so I can save them on my hard drive any way I want. For example, I have my work notes organized as ./work/archive/{YEAR}/{MONTH}{DAY}/week-of-{date}.org. Each week, I also export the finished notes to linked html files, which is very useful for going back and looking at my previous notes.


That’s it. I’ve switched back to emacs org-notes for my work tasks, but remain on Joplin for my personal and home notes. So far… I’m loving it. I think that I switched to Joplin because org-mode wasn’t ideal for my personal notes. However, Joplin was lacking for my work notes. That’s okay. I learned that my home vs. work notes are two completely different use cases, and as a result should use different tools.

So, moving forward, I plan to keep using Joplin for my personal notes, and emacs org-mode for my work tasks. Perfect.

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